tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post8950129858645872321..comments2023-09-18T15:13:07.133-04:00Comments on Cyclopeatron: 10 Reasons to Love SpelljammerBob Reedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12073807225519106277noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-66856724718558887652011-02-22T01:43:42.399-05:002011-02-22T01:43:42.399-05:00Savage Worlds could be a fun ruleset for it. I hav...Savage Worlds could be a fun ruleset for it. I have most of the books including the comics for it. So, the material is all there.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15432085243298117202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-10223692286102211262010-10-11T15:52:34.286-04:002010-10-11T15:52:34.286-04:00Yeah, that's me. You can find my contact info ...Yeah, that's me. You can find my contact info on my blog. (Appologies to Cyclopeatron for starting up a private conversation here. )Havard:https://www.blogger.com/profile/03672640381532559035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-31211757720046799822010-10-11T15:37:21.696-04:002010-10-11T15:37:21.696-04:00I mostly hot shot Savage Worlds stuff but I will l...I mostly hot shot Savage Worlds stuff but I will look to see if I wrote any of it down. If I can find anything I'll shoot it to you. This is Havard from the Blackmoor blog right?rmckee78https://www.blogger.com/profile/09615862275814728575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-27281248235508396602010-10-11T15:34:44.676-04:002010-10-11T15:34:44.676-04:00rmckee78: Sounds like a perfect combination. I hav...rmckee78: Sounds like a perfect combination. I have sundered skies, but I would be interested in seeing any SJ conversions you may have done :)Havard:https://www.blogger.com/profile/03672640381532559035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-810909605457985542010-10-11T15:28:30.882-04:002010-10-11T15:28:30.882-04:00I love Spelljammer. I loved it in 2nd edition. I l...I love Spelljammer. I loved it in 2nd edition. I loved it as Hackjammer. I have used Savage Worlds to run a version of it. In fact their Sundered Skies setting owes a lot to Spelljamer. I love its gonzo, oddball flavor. I always run it as pulpy and ridiculous as I can. Asteroids with natives who put the characters in giant cook pots. A proud Giff marine force obsessed with medals (also all of them must have -bottom as the last half of their last name)rmckee78https://www.blogger.com/profile/09615862275814728575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-56044768617066828512010-10-09T11:49:33.878-04:002010-10-09T11:49:33.878-04:00Spelljammer didn't appeal to me when it came o...Spelljammer didn't appeal to me when it came out. The art turned me off, I'm afraid, and yes the wacky spaceships.<br /><br />Something has changed though. Partly it's the art and the ships, but I'm now attracted to settings that let me engage in sci-fi tropes (many of which are high-seas tropes anyway) in an ostensibly fantasy setting. I may have damaged my brain with too much He-Man as a child. I liked the 4E Manual of the Planes, and the other planes books, and I've already given some of my players a taste of astral adventuring. I can't wait until they're plying the Astral Sea, hopping from dominion to dominion. I might even try to buy one of those Spelljammer sets on eBay. (Sorry if this is a partial duplicate. It looked like my first post got vaped.)centaurihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17625277812057790915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-38894370818623763222010-10-08T15:01:08.086-04:002010-10-08T15:01:08.086-04:00I might make a video blog about this later, but mo...I might make a video blog about this later, but most D&D settings are silly to some degree. It is all in the execution if it is silly awesome or silly stupid. On the face of it Elves In Spaaace is no more silly than Ravenloft of Al Qadim. I hope Spelljammer get some 4E treatment eventually.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00801468265072232351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-86575623817412062582010-10-08T09:23:35.081-04:002010-10-08T09:23:35.081-04:00I've long maintained - almost as an article of...I've long maintained - almost as an article of faith - that the only good thing to come out of TSR's 2E era was (some of) their settings. That's where the gonzo was happening in the 80s; not in safe-and-easy cash cows like Dragonlance & the Realms.<br /><br /><i>For instance, it’s painfully corny that many of the spaceships look like sea animals.</i><br /><br />Space is an ocean. You make laser eye beam space whale sad.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04072272223837426211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-14457070691478310622010-10-07T20:27:09.078-04:002010-10-07T20:27:09.078-04:00Nigel Findley wrote a novel series way back when a...Nigel Findley wrote a novel series way back when about the adventures of Telden Moore . . .<br /><br />can be found on AmazonClovis Cithoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18208194219083373456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-73523992386386623012010-10-07T17:24:00.283-04:002010-10-07T17:24:00.283-04:00I think Spelljammer elves would be best suited as ...I think Spelljammer elves would be best suited as a race of space sex servants working in the pleasure chambers of the Dwarven Citadel...Bob Reedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12073807225519106277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-18275037017098082692010-10-07T16:34:05.159-04:002010-10-07T16:34:05.159-04:00The Spelljammer conception of Elves also bears a l...The Spelljammer conception of Elves also bears a lot of strong resemblance to the empire of Jurai from the "Tenchi Muyo" anime supercluster, what with the super space tree starships and whatnot. You could work that for some inspiration if you weren't into the big butterflies.BigFellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03052419088140204154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-77266753456895064332010-10-07T16:32:48.355-04:002010-10-07T16:32:48.355-04:00It was swashbuckling on an interstellar scale, but...<i>It was swashbuckling on an interstellar scale, but kept the magic powered feel of AD&D in a way that is really underestimated.</i><br /><br />Bingo. To me this is one of the most appealing aspects of Spelljammer. It's all about weird magic, not pseudo-science and/or mystery technology. At it's core it really is D&D, not wizards haphazardly thrown into quasi-Victorian flying ships.<br /><br />Your games sound awesome, by the way. I'm jealous!Bob Reedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12073807225519106277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-85355004455833873562010-10-07T16:11:24.730-04:002010-10-07T16:11:24.730-04:00Spelljammer was where we spent most of our time pl...Spelljammer was where we spent most of our time playing. It was sort of like AD&D but on a much larger scale. There was much attention paid to crew moral, alignment, docking fees, manifests, and such that it had the feel of a massive naval fleet with each player character eventually captaining and commanding their own ship in a mighty fleet that encountered similar challenges. It was swashbuckling on an interstellar scale, but kept the magic powered feel of AD&D in a way that is really underestimated. My rose coloured glasses may be obscuring my memories of it a bit, but Ninja kender teleporting with a ring of teleport into your hold and stealing as much treasure as they could carry, minotaur warrior generals commanding fleets of orcs in scorpion ships, broadside attacks from clipper ships manned with giff cannon, as well as conquering asteroids infested with undead legions and massive amounts of shipwrecked treasure?<br /><br />What's not to like?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07261885743745880775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-18841794784342296692010-10-07T16:01:16.864-04:002010-10-07T16:01:16.864-04:00I once had Elric come sailing into a dungeon on a ...<i>I once had Elric come sailing into a dungeon on a plane-traveling ship and pick up my players' party.</i><br /><br />Ha ha! Rad!Bob Reedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12073807225519106277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-65040381342002794672010-10-07T15:59:21.713-04:002010-10-07T15:59:21.713-04:00I love Spelljammer. Although I wasn't interest...I love Spelljammer. Although I wasn't interested in Planescape (or Dark Sun or Ravenloft, all from the same time period), with all the "berk" junk. But I did like the basic idea of planar travel, and I don't see why you couldn't somehow combine it with Spelljammer. I once had Elric come sailing into a dungeon on a plane-traveling ship and pick up my players' party.Baron Greystonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16636292202674906870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-86445235750586493322010-10-07T15:21:28.227-04:002010-10-07T15:21:28.227-04:00I love the mjolnir-craft.
Also: If you object to ...I love the mjolnir-craft.<br /><br />Also: If you object to steampunk in your D&D, you'll need to delicately ignore some aspects of the Planescape setting. <br /><br />Speaking of which: Does anyone think Planescape and Spelljammer could be successfully kludged? They're my two favorite settings, but I don't think they make sense together. But the idea keeps crossing my mind.Jaysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03652611193354218021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-51794808410922095662010-10-07T15:18:44.840-04:002010-10-07T15:18:44.840-04:00Luckily the spaceflight mechanic relies on a "...<i>Luckily the spaceflight mechanic relies on a "Create Helm" spell cast by the controlling magic user. Therefore you are not bound at all to use the ships in the book. Create Helm can be used to turn anything into a spacefaring vessel. I'd be inclined to have glass spheres, flying towers, and giant zardozian heads in my own game.</i><br /><br />This reminds a bit of the alien race from the X-Men comics, known as The Brood, that enslaved and lobotomized enormous creatures, implanting cybernetics and turning them into living space ships, which is cool if not icky.Sean Robsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16429301144221551751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-78825388700655853412010-10-07T14:36:34.446-04:002010-10-07T14:36:34.446-04:00Make the space elves into vulcans and throw in a h...Make the space elves into vulcans and throw in a heaping of science to balance the magic and I think you've got the beginnings of damn fine space opera setting. <br /><br />We all know beholders are aliens anyway, duh!<br /><br />Oh, here's something for your <a href="http://miksminis.blogspot.com/2009/05/lego-space-dwarves.html" rel="nofollow">space dwarves</a> fix.Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07997164906328234122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-10003755185665618252010-10-07T14:11:07.504-04:002010-10-07T14:11:07.504-04:00Great article! I love Spelljammer too. The only th...Great article! I love Spelljammer too. The only thing I disagree with is #10. A little steam punk is always welcome. I have to forward this to the Spelljammer forum on the Piazza :)Havard:https://www.blogger.com/profile/03672640381532559035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-88730309512423714542010-10-07T13:57:53.761-04:002010-10-07T13:57:53.761-04:00I bought Dark sun last year and theat led me to bu...I bought Dark sun last year and theat led me to buy SpellJammer. Some of the ideas are great, but the ship designs are goofy and the less said about the interior art, the better. <br />I love the idea of a stripped down setting free version, though.Aoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00145284080419502886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-44411590864559519432010-10-07T13:50:48.327-04:002010-10-07T13:50:48.327-04:00@ Cyclopeatron
Heck, plays into the "dwarves ...@ Cyclopeatron<br />Heck, plays into the "dwarves speak with Scots accents" trope as well. Only with red loincloths, mutton chops, and bandito bullet bandoliers. <br /><br />Actually, a flying mountain full of pissed off dwarf exterminators is pretty serious Planet Algol type stuff.BigFellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03052419088140204154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-71030770203338246222010-10-07T13:50:30.930-04:002010-10-07T13:50:30.930-04:00If you are a big fan, you might want to check out ...<i>If you are a big fan, you might want to check out the upcoming Pirates of the Bronze Sky, a Eberron / Spelljammer mash-up setting for Paizo's Pathfinder RPG. </i><br /><br />Interesting, although I'd be afraid it might be a little too heavy on the steampunk for my own tastes. <br /><br />For what it's worth, there's also a rumor floating around that Hasbro will release a 4e version of Spelljammer next year.Bob Reedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12073807225519106277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-36717551033374909092010-10-07T13:38:58.153-04:002010-10-07T13:38:58.153-04:00All the dwarves inside are dressed like Sean Conne...<i>All the dwarves inside are dressed like Sean Connery in "Zardoz".</i><br /><br />Absolutely! Zardoz is my favorite movie of all time, which is probably why that image resonated with me so much.Bob Reedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12073807225519106277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-52403021585018368282010-10-07T13:26:47.148-04:002010-10-07T13:26:47.148-04:00And that dwarf citadel?
All the dwarves inside a...And that dwarf citadel? <br /><br />All the dwarves inside are dressed like Sean Connery in "Zardoz".BigFellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03052419088140204154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2005132770907882258.post-83114880448949263512010-10-07T13:23:30.693-04:002010-10-07T13:23:30.693-04:00Steampunk free? It has mad crazy Tinker Gnomes and...<i>Steampunk free? It has mad crazy Tinker Gnomes and quasi-19th C. Imperialist Giff with guns.</i><br /><br />You're right, I guess I'll have to think of another Reason 10. At least there are no clockwork goggles, thank god.Bob Reedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12073807225519106277noreply@blogger.com